Comments on: SMS versus MIM (Mobile IM) Business Models http://imroadmap.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/ News and strategies for achieving value from IM. Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:46:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Graham Lawlor http://imroadmap.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-25 Graham Lawlor Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:13:30 +0000 http://blog.imroadmap.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-25 Interesting, thanks for the comments Ben. I had a persona experience in this area last week. I was shopping for a new phone and noticed that many of the new phones available from my provider (T-mobile) have built in IM capabilities (AOL, Yahoo and ICQ if I recall correctly). I asked how IM messages are charged, and was told (after some debate among the T-mobile staff) that IM messages are charged the same as SMS messages. If this is true and if people are still using/buying this service then perhaps we can see evidence that consumers are willing to pay for IM over mobile. Perhaps the distinction in consumers minds is between mobile and desktop - as opposed to between SMS and IM. They are willing to pay for messages (on any protocol) from a mobile device and they are not from a PC. Just a thought. Graham. Interesting, thanks for the comments Ben.

I had a persona experience in this area last week. I was shopping for a new phone and noticed that many of the new phones available from my provider (T-mobile) have built in IM capabilities (AOL, Yahoo and ICQ if I recall correctly). I asked how IM messages are charged, and was told (after some debate among the T-mobile staff) that IM messages are charged the same as SMS messages. If this is true and if people are still using/buying this service then perhaps we can see evidence that consumers are willing to pay for IM over mobile. Perhaps the distinction in consumers minds is between mobile and desktop – as opposed to between SMS and IM. They are willing to pay for messages (on any protocol) from a mobile device and they are not from a PC.

Just a thought.

Graham.

]]> By: Ben http://imroadmap.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-24 Ben Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:21:44 +0000 http://blog.imroadmap.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-24 Graham, Haven't read the report, but I would not doubt the figure. UK figures just hit 4bn messages in a month. Although usage is increasing operators are trying to migrate customer revenue and usage into IP based services which is difficult to do when people expect the internet and msn for free like it is on the PC. People are still paying the prices for SMS premium services which can be £1 to £1.50, particularly TV voting. Also the network bandwidth needs to be in place to support IM to work in mass market. Not sure what the increase data factor is for additional prescense information to be constantly pushed, whether it by over SMS or IP network. Ben <a href="www.iotasphere.com" rel="nofollow">www.iotasphere.com</a> Graham,
Haven’t read the report, but I would not doubt the figure. UK figures just hit 4bn messages in a month. Although usage is increasing operators are trying to migrate customer revenue and usage into IP based services which is difficult to do when people expect the internet and msn for free like it is on the PC. People are still paying the prices for SMS premium services which can be £1 to £1.50, particularly TV voting.

Also the network bandwidth needs to be in place to support IM to work in mass market. Not sure what the increase data factor is for additional prescense information to be constantly pushed, whether it by over SMS or IP network.

Ben
http://www.iotasphere.com

]]> By: Graham Lawlor http://imroadmap.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-19 Graham Lawlor Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:27:31 +0000 http://blog.imroadmap.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-19 Nick, My inclination is to agree with you. I just re-read the blog excerpt and found the report itself (http://www.portioresearch.com/MMF07-12.html). Unless I'm reading wrong, it does seem to discuss SMS strictly in the context of 'messaging' - alongside other messaging technologies such as MIM and mobile email. The title of the report is "Mobile Messaging Futures 2007-2012". If they are including the broader mobile commerce space in the scope of the report, they are doing a good job of hiding it. If anyone has $3,000 to donate for the report, I'll tell you for sure... Nick,
My inclination is to agree with you. I just re-read the blog excerpt and found the report itself (http://www.portioresearch.com/MMF07-12.html). Unless I’m reading wrong, it does seem to discuss SMS strictly in the context of ‘messaging’ – alongside other messaging technologies such as MIM and mobile email. The title of the report is “Mobile Messaging Futures 2007-2012″. If they are including the broader mobile commerce space in the scope of the report, they are doing a good job of hiding it. If anyone has $3,000 to donate for the report, I’ll tell you for sure…

]]> By: Nick http://imroadmap.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-18 Nick Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:35:54 +0000 http://blog.imroadmap.com/2007/02/26/sms-versus-mim-mobile-im-business-models/#comment-18 Graham I haven't seen the report but the "market" estimation must include the commericals of the message to make a transaction (like make a payment, buy a good or service, etc...). If not, it's grossly inflated. Graham

I haven’t seen the report but the “market” estimation must include the commericals of the message to make a transaction (like make a payment, buy a good or service, etc…). If not, it’s grossly inflated.

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